A Republican who believes in a woman’s right to choose, Jennifer Stockman is the first female President of the Board of the Guggenheim Foundation and Chair of the Republican Majority for Choice, the largest pro-choice and pro-stem advocacy group within the GOP. Recently recognized as one of Women’s eNews 21 Leaders for the 21st century, In this online interview with The Daily Femme, Jennifer talks about women’s leadership positions and shares with us her views on the place of moderate Republicans, the new Healthcare bill and women’s issues concerning reproductive rights. She also tells us why she finds Hillary Clinton inspiring but not Nancy Pelosi or Sarah Palin for that matter.
As your career has grown from being one of the few female managers at IBM in Washington D.C. in the late 1970s to becoming the first female President of the Board of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Foundation, how has working in a man’s world changed over the years? Do you think that women in positions of power such as yours must still adopt a certain behavior or language in order to fit in?I think it depends on the industry that you are talking about. My most recent experiences (2002-2008) have been in politics as co-Chair of the Republican Majority for Choice, and now as President of the Board of Solomon R Guggenheim Foundation; which have many differences as far as acceptable professional behavior. Although both organizations are non-profits, there are always similar degrees of professionalism expected in every field. Republican politics is still very male-dominated, a kind of old boys network, and not likely to change anytime soon. The rare exception has been Sarah Palin, whom I am not a fan of and whose social views are opposite from my own. And I certainly don’t believe she has the qualifications or credentials to run for president. That not withstanding, women on all sides of the aisle at the very least need to appreciate that she is breaking new ground for women in Republican politics. After all, she is the first Republican woman to run as VP on the Presidential ticket. Many of us are just extremely disappointed that she isn’t a woman with more experience and knowledge of history or just plain…knowledge. Plus, she’s a quitter who didn’t last even one term as Alaska’s Governor. So, not quite the perfect role model for our daughters, but still it is a very positive development that a woman has achieved such a high political profile.
I thought it was historic when Senator Elizabeth Dole became the first Republican female to run for President in 2000, which was the main reason why I became involved, and decided to run her campaign in Connecticut. Both Dole and Palin’s professional paths will indeed make it easier for women in the future to run for high elected office, and I’m confident that in our lifetime, or certainly in my children’s lifetime, we will have an outstanding Republican female President, who is a charismatic leader, has a wealth and breadth of experience, is an historian, scholar, diplomat and it goes without saying also respects a woman’s right to choose. And I must add, that if the world had more female leaders, there would be less conflict and war (but that’s another interview)!
The world of art, however, is a very different story. While the majority of trustees on the Guggenheim board are male, I have seen the number of women grow during my tenure. There are many executive roles and leadership positions filled by women in our Institution including our Deputy Director and Chief Curator, Nancy Spector; General Counsel, Sarah Austrian, and many others. Additionally, the art world is unique among other fields, and probably has almost an equal number of female art dealers (aka gallerists) to male; many brilliant women are museum directors, CEOs and chief curators, and we’re seeing female artists almost make as much as their male colleagues when they sell work, which is often an indicator of equality. The art world is certainly more gender blind than the Republican world of politics, but that is really only in recent times. A major difference between these two worlds is that you don’t have to play golf and eat red meat in the art world… making it much easier for a non-golf playing vegetarian like me!
Do you think that women artists are well represented in the collections of your institution and what improvements or changes would you like to see in this respect?
I think it is wrong, and actually a disservice to women, to have a ‘quota’ that says we want to specifically increase the number of female artists in our collection. Women have similar talents and abilities as men, which are necessary to succeed including creativity, focus, persistence and hard work. In my own collection, I have many examples of female artists but I did not choose them because they were women but rather because they produced outstanding examples in the field of contemporary art today. And the Guggenheim had recent outstanding exhibitions by female artists, including Louise Bourgeois, Catherine Opie and Julie Mehrutu.
I can’t help but think about this year’s Whitney Biennial, which featured more female artists than male without being a feminist show. Instead it showcased women as artists instead of focusing on their gender.
Thank you for bringing that to my attention, as I didn’t realize that there were more women represented at the art fair… and I certainly don’t think that was deliberate. Women have made such impressive progress because they are as well educated, trained and empowered to be their own advocates as their male colleagues. My two daughters, who are young adults today, have grown up in a gender-blind and color-blind world. They don’t even register differences between the sexes or of persons of color. I’m afraid this will change as they experience the professional world where people from older generations don’t perceive the world as they do. But this is progress nonetheless.
You were the Co-chair of the Republican Majority for Choice, a pro-choice and pro-stem cell advocacy group. Can you share with us some of the challenges that your group faces, as the Republican Party moves more and more to the right?
You’re 100% right. The GOP is moving further to the right and this is RMC’s greatest challenge. As Obama’s popularity continues to drop, more pollsters believe that 2010 is going to be the Republican year to win back Congressional seats, maybe even take back the House. Many extreme right Republicans, who are vehemently anti-choice, will be elected as a result, because the majority of the GOP and Independent electorate will be voting against Obamacare and Government bailouts — and will vote for ANY Republican running, without truly understanding or even concerned about their social positions. This could be another turning point in the composition of the GOP leadership, and I fear it won’t be good news for the pro-choice community.
Additionally, we all witnessed the abortion issue being used as a political football in the health care debate among Democrats, who have shown their true colors — when the going gets tough they won’t defend or support a woman’s right to choose either. The only way women will stay safe and maintain control of their personal freedoms are to elect pro-choice Democrats AND pro- choice Republicans. We need to be represented well on both sides of the aisles in order to deal with the challenges and threats to Roe v Wade likely to come our way.
Politically speaking would you call the moderate pro-choice Republican an “endangered species,” and do you think you still have a place in the Republican Party as it has evolved since the election of Barack Obama?
Republicans vote on economic issues and a strong national defense, and with the exception of the extreme right minority, don’t really give high priority to a woman’s right to choose. In fact, through polling we know that the majority of Republicans are actually pro-choice even though they’re not comfortable with that nomenclature. There is such a stigma with the term “pro-choice”; to many it means pro-abortion. But when you ask individuals about their views on ‘personal choice and responsibility’, and unless they have strong religious beliefs, they admit to wanting their daughter to have a choice of a legal abortion especially if she were raped, underage or incapable for whatever reason of having and raising a healthy child. In a perfect world, we all want children to be born and raised to be happy and productive citizens. But sadly, we don’t live in a perfect world, nor should Government be the judge of other people’s personal lives; thus abortion must continue to be an option. The extremists are trying to take away that option; they are only care about this issue and will only vote for anti-choice candidates endorsed by the Right to Life. The majority of Republicans, who are mostly moderate, vote on the economy, foreign policy, health care, education, and so forth, and unfortunately don’t pay much attention to a candidates positions on social issues. There in lies the Republican problem — they basically don’t care about our issues, and from observing the health care debate, we can’t trust the Democrats either. We’re on our own girls!
As a long time supporter of a woman’s right to choose, what are your thoughts on the new heath-care reform legislation?
I think it is an abomination and irresponsible. Was that clear enough!! (more…)